Category: Podcast

In this weekly show, we will share stories about our travels. We will also share tips and advice about our work from anywhere lifestyle. It’s our hope that you’ll get some cool ideas and be inspired. We’d love to hear from you. Feel free to send us questions to

We go by the name “Been There DOING That” because we are a long way from being done! Thanks for listening. We hope you enjoy the show.

#011 – What We Did at Overland Expo East

#011 – What We Did at Overland Expo East

It’s been a couple of weeks since we’ve returned from Overland Expo East and we realized that the trip was entirely too short. Sure the event was only a weekend, but we certainly like to take our time making our way to the event and coming home should be just as slow. 

We had a wonderful time in Asheville, NC. The weather couldn’t have been better for the event. In this episode, we talk about our weekend at Overland Expo.



Episode Highlights:

We got a few cool things from the vendors.

Just a few pics of our weekend 

Recording Episode 9!


Driving course!


Great Classes!


Loved all the vendors!


Dinner and Drinks


Biltmore Estate

One of the many, many flower photos taken in the garden.


Had to get a shot of the Jeep in front of the house before we left.



Open up the hood and conversations are inevitable.


Dean Shirley with Eastcoast Overland Adventures


Can’t leave those boys alone for two minutes!


The BEST meal of the weekend!


The morning we were leaving. A beautiful and foggy morning.


#010 – Stuck and 50 Miles from the Nearest Town

#010 – Stuck and 50 Miles from the Nearest Town

We are doing something different for this episode. When we were at Overland Expo East a couple of weeks ago, we met James Henry. We were campground neighbors and fellow volunteers for the event. He and his wife, Amanda, went on the Transamerica Trail last year. We thought we’d share some of our conversations we had with James.



Episode Highlights:

  • James Henry computer animator and Army Veteran from New Jersey
  • Website:
  • Was in the Army for 7 years
  • Became interested in overlanding because was basically doing it as an Army scout
  • Began planning trip three months before getting out of the Army
  • Bought 2002 Land Rover Discovery and modified it for trip
  • Purchased the maps from Sam Correro at
  • Took two months to complete
  • Favorite parts were passes in Colorado and Moab
  • Impressed with Gaia GPS app for IOS and Android
  • Thought they were in real trouble
    • Power steering pump blew with fluid fiasco and the trip hadn’t even really began 
    • Death Canyon, UT – stuck in salt flats, storm a brewing, no cell service, 50 miles from the nearest town
    • An unexpected float trip in Idaho

Thanks James for a great interview. We really enjoyed getting to know you a bit. May our paths cross again.


#009 – We Made It! | Getting to Overland Expo East

#009 – We Made It! | Getting to Overland Expo East

It’s not an adventure unless something goes wrong, right? Well, we wouldn’t say things went too wrong, but the fear of a tire flying off did put a spark of excitement into our trip.

Have a listen to our little adventure we had getting from Missouri to North Carolina to attend Overland Expo East. We were so excited to be volunteering at this year’s event. Glad the Jeep got us there. 


Episode Highlights:

  • Only seven-tenths of a mile on Interstate, just because we couldn’t avoid it
  • Discovered lug nut was missing from front passenger wheel
  • A tiny bit of panic during a parking lot repair
  • Got our exercise walking to get parts
  • Jeep’s vapor locking issue seemed to be getting worse
  • Had to stop several times to give the Jeep a break from vapor locking
  • Stopped at several auto parts stores along the way
  • Camping was fantastic at Meriwether Lewis National Monument & Henry Horton State Park
  • A little later than we planned, but we made it to Overland Expo East
#008 – Reminiscing Overland Expo West 2016

#008 – Reminiscing Overland Expo West 2016

As this episode publishes, we are on our way to Asheville, NC to volunteer at Overland Expo East. We recorded this episode when we were preparing for our trip and reflect on our first Overland Expo experience in May 2016.


Episode Highlights:

  • First experience with Overland Expo at Morman Lake, AZ (Check out the link because we’re in their recap slideshow, at least our vehicle is. See if you can pick us out.)
  • Overland Expo is an event gathering of like-minded individuals who live and travel out of their vehicle, usually 4-wheel drive or motorcycle
  • Not an RV event
  • Learn more about the event by going to
  • Huge event, 8-10,000 people!
  • Camped in a field with many other vehicles with roof-top tents
    • Neighbors
    • Got a lot of ideas from those around us on their set-up
  • WINDY event — never experienced that much wind at an event and camping
    • Bloverland became the event’s nickname
    • Anex room saved the tent
    • Only damage was small hole in mesh door of annex room
  • Event had huge vendor section
  • Classes available for all kinds of interests
    • Tactical Driving courses
    • Check out our recap blog post
    • Classes we sat in on:
      • Adventure Capital: Creating a lifetime travel fund with investment real estate & retirement planning, Johnathan Ehly & Carla King
      • 10 Easy Ways to Get More Out of Your Social Media, Aliza Sherman
      • Taking and Managing Your Photographs, Mike Endres
      • Knots and Hitches for Securing Gear to Roof-Racks & Trailers, Rusty Rice
      • Basics of Visual Storytelling, Dean Shirley
      • Wayfinding With Map and Compass, Charly Aurelia
      • On-Trail Communications: Getting beyond the CB radio, Bob McNamara
      • Less is More: What do you really “need” to bring on an adventure? Walt Wagner
      • Sponsorship: The ins and outs of finding funds for your adventure, Sam Manicom
      • Weather and Climate Knowledge for Expeditions, Michael Douglas
      • HAM Radio Equipment and Use Workshop, Scott Martin, Coconino Amateur Radio Club
  • Met some great people who we follow on YouTube
  • Toured Overland Expedition Vehicles
We had a fantastic time out West and will be going back for sure. Now…we are headed East for our overland adventure!
#007 – Preparing for Travels East

#007 – Preparing for Travels East

The time seems to have snuck up on us. We have been planning to go to Overland Expo East for months and the time to leave is upon us and it seems like we are behind in our preparation. 

In this episode, we share what modifications and prep work on the Jeep we’ve done so far and the big project left to do before we hit the road.


Episode Highlights:

  • Why we rotated the tent on the Jeep.
  • Jeep seems to have a vapor lock issue.
  • Installed extra storage.
  • A couple of important pumps replaced.
  • Find out what shocking project Robert must spring into action for.



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#006 – A Hamvangelist Weekend

#006 – A Hamvangelist Weekend

We took the opportunity this past weekend to set up camp and test out some things before we leave for our trip to North Carolina trip in a couple of weeks. Actually, Robert had been looking forward to the September ARRL VHF contest and he wanted to participate as a portable station. It certainly brought out the Hamvangelist in him!

Episode Highlights:

      • Robert had prepared for the last couple of weeks to get his antennas ready for the event.
      • Height is everything.
      • We stayed on family property, in a field, high on a hill to try to get the best signal.
      • Things didn’t go exactly as planned.
      • Successful testing of our Baofeng handy talkies on family radio setting at over a mile away. (Robert was very pleased! He wanted to make sure to use them on our NC trip.)
      • Recently moved the roof-top tent forward and rotated on the Jeep so it would fold out on the passenger’s side instead of the back. All systems worked and new crossbars good and secure.
      • Robert talked cursive about the VHF contest, but if you are a fellow Hamvangelist, you’d understand. Actually, he wasn’t too hard to understand until he threw in some 5 dollar words. 

Life is an experiment, that’s for sure. This weekend got us out of the RV and outside. The experience helped us to not only think about and plan our North Carolina trip, but also Robert was able to trouble shoot and plan for the next VHF contest scheduled for January.


#005 – Our Solar Eclipse Journey

#005 – Our Solar Eclipse Journey

There was certainly solar eclipse frenzy on Monday, August 21st. Like many, we used the Eclipse as an excuse to get away from our home base and take the day off work. We headed for northeast Kansas and landed near Hiawatha at Brown State Fishing Lake for our total eclipse view. We recount our little journey in this episode. 



Episode Highlights:

  • More people than expected at Brown State Fishing Lake. 
  • Found a great camping spot next to the lake.
  • Dinner we cooked was fantastic. Could have been we were STARVING!
  • Used new cookware we found in Warrensburg.
  • Love our tiny stove!
  • Beautiful sunset.
  • Rain came the next morning. 
  • Packed up before we got wet.
  • Decided to leave camping area for another location.
  • Witnessed eclipse at Highland Mission State Historical Site. 
  • Clouds and rain held off during the most important part.
  • We discovered a little stowaway who traveled with us from our camping spot in KS all the way home. Some 260 miles!
  • Had a great time!
#004 – 3 Things to Consider When Starting a Full-Time Lifestyle

#004 – 3 Things to Consider When Starting a Full-Time Lifestyle

Back in 2011, when we first moved into our RV, we did some research as to what it takes to become a full-timer. Mainly, we learned quite a bit just going through our own hoops. In this episode, we share some of the first things we had to consider when breaking ties from a house with a foundation into a lifestyle on wheels.

 Episode Highlights:

There are three major things we had to work out.
1) Residency
  • When we first went full-time living in our RV, we were in Florida. We were renting a house in FL so we initially wanted to keep our Florida residency.
  • We did a lot of research as to what other full-time RVers were doing and where they would establish residency.
  • We kept Florida because we already had our drivers license there. There were no vehicle inspections to renew license. We thought that would be the easiest and most straightforward way to go. Florida also didn’t have state income tax. 
2) Mailing address
  • To establish residency, you must have an address. We were renting a house, but soon that address would not be valid. Many online references guided us to establish a box at places like a UPS store that could have a street address and a box number.
  • We would have our personal mail shipped to us once or twice a month where ever we were in the country.
  • The drawback was not getting info timely. Although most of our bills were online, some official notices do not arrive electronically. 
3) Bank accounts
  • Any time you establish a bank account, you must have a valid street address. They do not accept addresses from a UPS Store.
  • So, if you are without an official home address, you’d need to use a close family or friend’s address. Not a big deal, I suppose. Just irritating that people thought you were up to no good if your home is on wheels.
We established our business and our personal residence in Florida and kept it there for quite some time. For all practical purposes, we ended up coming back to our home state of Missouri and are using it as our home base now. We are closer to family and have decided to really grow our business here and take time to travel in our smaller vehicles.
Yes, Missouri has state inspections and state income tax. We find that it’s the best place for us to call our home base. We transferred our business to be established in Missouri. We have a PO box for all our business affairs. We have team members who check our PO box and make sure everything is filed or deposited timely. We are closer to our rental property to check on it occasionally. And since we don’t like driving around the big 38 foot RV any longer and like back roads and little highways and byways, we park it on family property in the country and that is our retreat. 
#003 – Our Adventures to Tennessee

#003 – Our Adventures to Tennessee

A few weeks back, we took a short trip to Tennessee. Robert dropped me off in Franklin while I attended a conference while he traveled on to the New Market area to hang out with HAM radio friends. This show sums up our little adventure.

 Episode Highlights:

  • A week or so before the trip, we moved the roof-top tent from the Subaru to the Jeep. Our confidence level with the Subaru had been shaken in taking such a long trip, so we opted to take the Jeep instead.
  • Robert designed and built an organization system in the back of the Jeep to make things easily accessible.
  • The day before we were to leave, the Jeep sprung a leak! The transfer case was leaking transmission fluid. A driveway repair was needed.
  • We headed off to TN from Springfield, MO with faith the Jeep wouldn’t give us any problems.
  • Our first night was spent at Chickasaw State Park.
  • Made it to Franklin. I was staying there for four days for a conference while Robert went to New Market to spend HAM Radio Summer Field Day with his good friend.
  • Oh no! When Robert was returning to Franklin from New Market, the alternator went out on the Jeep. Parking lot repair put him behind schedule two hours.
  • He made it back to Franklin safe and sound. We headed slowly back to MO.
  • We took our time and traveled on the Natchez Trace Parkway from just outside of Franklin, TN to Tupelo, MS. 
  • After getting off the Natchez Trace Parkway, two unplanned stops that we were pleasantly surprised by were Louisiana Purchase State Park and Peel Ferry, both in Arkansas.
Our Jeep got us there and got us back home. Even with the repairs that had to be done along the way, for some reason we had more confidence with the Jeep than we had with the Subaru. We were never too stressed or worried about getting to our destination. 
If you’re interested in our full trip log, feel free to click here for our Travel Log | MO to TN | June 2017 blog post.
#002 – We Live Out of Our Vehicle

#002 – We Live Out of Our Vehicle

In this week’s episode, we talk about our vehicles which help us to achieve our work from anywhere lifestyle. We like to have our house on wheels so we can have the option and flexibility to move our office and our home whenever we want. 


Episode Highlights:

Our vehicles:

2003 Alfa SeeYa 

38-foot diesel pusher Class A Motorhome
Holds 100 gallons fuel
Holds 100 gallons of fresh water
2 slide-outs
Avg 8 miles to the gallon
Great storage!
The downside is basement A/C just can’t keep up.
Although we like living in our RV, we really are tired of traveling in the big beast. We would prefer to drive on roads the RV simply can’t go. Robert looked into purchasing a roof-top tent where we could live out of our car when we traveled. We use our roof-top tent either on our Subaru or Jeep.

1999 Subaru Outback Legacy

When we purchased it 2 years ago, it had 92,000 miles
5-speed, manual transmission
2.5-liter engine
Avg 25 miles to the gallon with all our gear

Jeep 1998 Wrangler Sport

4 liter in-line 6 engine
Average 14 miles to the gallon
Learn why on earth we like older vehicles vs. a brand new car. Also, you may (or may not) be surprised to learn what Robert’s dream vehicle is.

Our Office Set-up

In our Alfa SeeYa, we are able for each of us to have our own workspace. We both hook up our laptops to external monitors so that we can enjoy dual monitors. We have plenty of storage space for any books or gadgets that we like to have on hand.

Now that we do the bulk of our travel either in the Subaru or Jeep, we have learned to downsize our office even further. Most of our work is done online, so the main issue we encounter is making sure we are connected and have power. Robert has installed solar, batteries, and an inverter system so that we can charge our equipment. We use the internet using our hot spot, our phones, or service offered by campgrounds, restaurants, rest areas, or libraries. 


As long as you have gas in the tank…you aren’t lost.